Januari 26, 2017
[music] alright! this is john kohler with okraw.com,today we have another exciting episode for you, in this episode we’re going to answera question that i get asked a lot, that i’m sure many of you guys also have on your minda lot, is “do you wash your produce before you eat it?†right? so right now i’m sittingin my garden, we’ve got some sugar snap peas right here, we’re going to go aheadand pick one off, and people always want to know “john, do you wash stuff before youeat it?†wow, super-sweet, super-delicious. so you guys saw i just picked and ate it outof my garden, but you know, for me things are not simple black and white, yes, no, ialways wash stuff, i never wash stuff, it
always varies right? and before i get intomy answer, what i want to do is get into over a dozen of my friends’ answers on this verytopic, well-known youtube personalities, people teaching about this stuff that’s been doingit a long time, so you can hear their answers, so you can decide if you want to wash producebefore you eat it. so now we’re here with megan elizabeth,you can learn more about her at meganelizabeth.com, or check her out on youtube at ezbraw, she’sbeen into raw foods now for the last six years, and the question for megan today is do youwash your fruits and vegetables before eating? if i was eating conventional fruits and vegetablesi might, but i don’t typically wash my organic stuff, and i know that some people make thecomment of “well a lot of people’s hands
have been touching it,†or whatever, andpeople just rinse it off with water, and i’m like “well what is the water doing?†ifthere’s dirt on my food i’ll rinse it off because i don’t want to be crackingany teeth or anything, but i typically don’t wash it if it’s organic. so now we’re here with christina [inaudible],she’s been on a fully raw raw vegan diet for the past nine plus years now, and youcan learn more about her at fullyraw.com, today we’re going to ask her some questions.do you wash your fruits and vegetables before eating? i don’t. [laughter] but keep in mind thati live in houston and i run a co-op called
rawfully organic, and the co-op gets fresh-pickedproduce all of the time. when i’m standing in the middle of a kale field, the first thingthat pops in my mind is not where can i find the sink, it’s literally tasting and eatingout of the field. so now we’re with karen ramsey. she’sbeen into raw foods for nearly 20 years now. you can learn more about her at superhealthychildren.com,the question i have for karen today is do you wash your fruits and vegetables beforeeating? i do, but i don’t overwater them. and ifi get something from the farmer’s market from a farmer who i trust his farming methods,or if it’s something that had come from my garden, then unless something’s really,really dirty, then i’ll wash it, but if
it’s not, and it’s organically grown ori get things biodynamically grown, and i try not to rinse everything off, i think we havemore opportunity to get vitamin b12 from our plants if we’re not over sanitizing everything. so now we’re with lou corona. he’s beeninto raw living foods now for the last 41 years, definitely a long time. you can learnmore about lou at loucorona.com, and the question i have for lou today is, do you wash yourfruits and vegetables before eating? well, i have to tell you truthfully, it’sprobably best to do that, but, and i’m a guy, i have to tell you i’m a little biton the lazy side, so i don’t always do that. but if i do see dirt, or if i see it needsto be rinsed, i just rinse it. but i’ve
been eating organic food off the garden fora lot of the years was right out of the garden. i just knock off the dirt, ate it just likethat, you know? but no i mean i kind of rinse it off and on here and there, but i do usea pure [inaudible] water to rinse any of my fruits when it’s necessary. sometimes ido and sometimes i don’t, that’s the truth. so now we’re with dr. rick dina, he’sbeen into raw foods for the last 27 years, you can learn more about him at rawfoodeducation.com.do you wash your fruits and vegetables before do i wash my fruits and vegetables, i usuallydo, that depends on the fruit and vegetable, if i’m going to eat the skin or whatever,or eat the lettuce for example i’ll wash it, and sometimes pat dry it with a towel.if it’s something that i’m not going to
eat the skin like a banana, i don’t seethe need to rinse a banana, because i’m going to peel it and the banana’s on theinside anyway. so i don’t know, i guess i rinse some things and not other things,and i think the most important way to answer that is i don’t get too worried about it,because it’s going to get exposed to some junk, we want to be as healthy as we can,and not stress about some of those details, like “what’s the ultimate produce washto get, should i use tap water, do i have to have an ro thing and oh my god [inaudible]better but it’s cooked and i need the mountain spring water, people get so caught up andso worked up it’s like oh my god, just relax and eat fruits and vegetables and take a lotof stress off your system, so that’s the
most important message i have, eat fruitsand vegetables, and enjoy your life. because that’s what it’s all about, it’s a meansto an end. the end is enjoying your life, what you do with your produce again it’sa means, it’s not the end in and of itself. so now we’re with [inaudible] also knownas the raw gourmet, she’s been doing raw foods for the last 27 years, this lady isalmost 71 now and she looks amazing, you can learn more about her at rawgourmet.com, andthe one question for nomi today is do you wash your fruits and vegetables? heck yes. i know there [inaudible] that themicrobes and soil organisms are good for you, but i will choose which microbes and soilorganisms i ingest thank you very much. and
you think about it john, well i guess, wheni first moved to california all the workers in the fields, they weren’t treated well,they didn’t have water and they didn’t have even places to use the toilet. so nowthey do but they’re still outhouses. and i mean, it may not be sanitary. so yeah, iactually very carefully wash all of my produce. how about you, do you? you’re going to learn about that one laterin the episode. so now we’re with ronnie, which is halfof the ronnie and [inaudible] team, you can learn more about them at ubraw.com, he’sbeen into raw foods for the past 14 years, do you wash your fruits and vegetables beforeeating?
no, my wife does. [laughter]. i gave up washinganything a long time ago. i need one of those wives. [laughter] actually she washes everything and dependingon what it is she uses different methods, but most of the time what she’ll use isa tub full of water, and some lemon. she’ll squirt some lemon juice in there, and willjust wash it on the outside. some foods we don’t eat the outside of, some foods wejust eat the inside, so those we don’t wash, we just peel them. but those foods that we’reeating the outside, a lot of them yeah we do wash them. that’s what we do. so now we’re here with chris kendall, he’sbeen raw for about a decade now, and you can
check him out at therawadvantage.com, andthe question for chris today is, chris do well i just got a big box of organic grapesand heirloom tomatoes so you better believe i’m not washing them. personally i don’twash it unless i taste something gross on it, i’m not saying it’s the wisest, i’mnever going to claim to be dr. wisdom, but even when i had conventional fruit, personallyunless it tastes bad, i have a pretty good taste for sprays and stuff, if i taste iti don’t even eat it, but if it tastes fresh and simple, i prefer not to wash it partiallyout of my own laziness. if i’m getting it from the garden i never wash it unless there’shunks of bird poop on it, then i usually just brush it off anyway, but my preference isto have it as close as it would be in nature,
natural like all other animals, [inaudible]shit to the stream, i’ve heard monkeys learn [inaudible] anyway, but yeah, no need forme to wash it. alright thanks chris. so now we’re with don bennett, das, he’sbeen into a raw foods fruit-based diet for over 20 years now, he’s definitely a wealthof knowledge, if you want to tap some of that knowledge, you’re going to want to checkhim out at his website health101.org. do you wash your fruits and vegetables before eating? i never do, i haven’t for 20 years, i’venever gotten sick from not doing it, but people say “oh yeah, you don’t wash your fruitsand vegetables because you want that b12â€
and that’s not where we’re designed toget b12 from. that’s not why i don’t wash my food. i don’t wash my food because i’mlazy, and plus i don’t see any reason to wash, i did it once, i got some fresh spinachand it just had dirt all over it, okay so yeah i rinsed that, because i just don’tenjoy eating dirt. you can’t make a meal out of it number one, so i don’t want anyof it, so i washed it off. but normally no, i think it’s much ado about nothing if you’retalking about organic food now. now if you’re talking about inorganic food, washing itselfjust with water doesn’t really help because the pesticides are mixed with a sticky substanceso they’re not going to be washed off by the rain, so just washing it more, you needthat veggie wash with citrus component in
it which will dissolve the sticky stuff toget the pesticides off. but organically grown food, if there’s no dirt on it i don’tbother. alright so we’re here with dan mcdonald,the life regenerator, you want to check him out for sure on youtube at liferegenerator,and he’s been into raw foods now for the last 14 years, and we’re just going to simplyask dan some questions today. so do you wash your fruits and vegetables before you eatthem or before you juice them? well you know, i go back and forth. it justdepends, if there’s a lot of mud and dirt, and it depends on my intuition at the time,but a lot of times like lou corona looked at me maybe a few years ago and he said “ihaven’t rinsed a fruit or vegetable in 41
years,†which is not entirely true becauseif you get that cilantro it’s got mud on it, you rinse it. but mainly lou lived outon the land, grew his own fruits and vegetables, and tavis is the same way, they like a littlebit of the dirt on the food. they feel it’s beneficial, and so i go back and forth, andif it’s a really clean dirt from a farmer that i know, and i’m talking to them ori know them, and i trust what they’re doing, then i won’t be as fanatical about it, i’mright in the middle between them and people that are like “you have to rinse it everysingle time.†so now we’re here with dr. sammy [inaudible],he’s been into raw foods for the past 15 years, and you can learn more about dr. samat drsampt.com, and we’re going to ask him
a simple question today, do you wash yourfruits and vegetables? depends on where they come from. again that’sone of those answers that it depends. out of my personal garden, no actually i don’tvery often, because i’m usually picking and actually eating them right there in thegarden which is an amazing experience, and if you wanted to clean them with something,even in your own garden, we have a natural cleaner it’s called saliva, and sometimesyou could go “this one’s got some white stuff on it,†like bird droppings or whateveryeah i probably would clean that off, i’d just spit on it and rub it on your pants andeat it. but if i’m getting food from an unknown source, i would, i’d probably washit because a lot of the times what happens,
contamination is from the handling of thefood, not where the food is grown, unfortunately on the news we see “oh this e.coli thingwith spinach.†okay that’s an intestinal bacteria, it’s not native to spinach. usuallyit either came from runoff from a factory farm up the street, or the fact that it washandled incorrectly when it was being processed or put on the truck to send to you, so reallythe answer is it depends. if i don’t know where it’s coming from, yes. if i know whereit’s coming from then no very often i won’t. so now we’re with tim van orton, he’sbeen into a raw foods diet since 2004, so that’s like ten years at this point, i admiretim, look up to him a lot. you can learn more about him and his work at runningraw.com,or his youtube channel running raw. do you
i wash my hands before eating. my fruits andvegetables, if i have grown them i do not wash them. if i buy them from the store iwash them, because i don’t know what’s on them. i don’t know what they were nextto when they were picked, i don’t know what was on the person’s hands when they pickedthem, often in california you see these giant [inaudible] fields and people out there pickingall day, and they want to make sure they’re getting so much per hour, so if the port-a-pottyor bathroom is half a mile away, they’re not going to walk to it and this is how weget salmonella outbreaks and whatnot, and this is [inaudible] e.coli. people are goingto the bathroom in the fields. and they may be using their hands and wiping just becausethey don’t want to have to take the time
to walk that distance to the bathroom, sothey go in the fields and that ends up on their hands, that ends up on the produce.wild [inaudible] spinach had e.coli on it, it’s from human feces. so even if it’sorganic, even if it was grown organically, how was it picked, how was it processed? soi wash everything that i buy in the store. but everything that i grow myself i don’twash. why? because there’s yeast and bacteria living on the outside, and they have vitaminb12 in them, some of them may have a probiotic effect on the body, so there’s a lot ofgood stuff growing on those fruits and veggies, and in fact that’s how wine was first created,the yeasts growing on the grapes. they didn’t need to add yeast, they used the yeast thatwas growing on the grape. but now we was the
grapes and then we add yeast. today we’re with matt monarch, he’s beeninto a raw foods diet for the last 17 years, and you can learn more about him and his internetonline superstore at therawfoodworld.com. the question for matt today is, do you washyour produce? do i wash my produce, that’s a great question,it depends. if i was in [inaudible] of ecuador i would wash my produce because we have afull water filtration system on our house, if i was at your house i’d probably do itbecause you have [inaudible] right? yeah, and other things. and other things, but we’re not going totalk about that. but if i’m in a hotel or
something and i’m dealing with chlorinatedwater, or at my mom’s house where it’s like she doesn’t really do much it’s like,i just get this, i don’t want to do it. but i’m also proponent of i don’t likeeating inorganic earthy matter. it’s probably some neurosis in my head or something, likewhen you believe in a way [inaudible] brought up or something. but these are insoluble particlesthat could [inaudible] the bloodstream and clog us up and cause calcifications [inaudible]. alright cool, so now we’re with one of thegodfathers of the whole living foods movement here in the us, he actually wrote a book it’sour bible in the 21st century that’s a classic, and i’m glad to have him on the show, he’spretty hard to get a hold of these days, and
he’s been doing a raw enzymatic live foodvegan diet now for the last 50 years, so he’s been doing this stuff a long time, he definitelyknows his stuff, if you want to learn more about victorus [inaudible], you can checkhim out at victorus.org. so the question i have for victorus today is do you wash yourproduce? i don’t even wash my face do you think i’mgoing to wash produce? [laughter] forget it, i want all those bacteria to bethere [inaudible] chemical. i buy only organic produce, so no i’m not into washing. nowi’m not saying you should do the same thing i’m doing, but i’m just telling you whati do. basically [inaudible] i have a basically
civilized company and they insist that i washit, then i’ll wash it. but as far as my own personal choices, no i don’t do that.a little bit of dirt goes a long ways to keep you healthy, that’s the way it should be. so as you guys just heard, everybody has theiropinion on if they wash the produce before they eat it, and it wasn’t declared like“yes i always wash it, no i don’t always wash it,†everybody kind of had their ownkind of thing right? and i would encourage you guys to think logically about this. thefda on one hand says “always wash your produce before eating,†and you know, a raw fooder[inaudible] smart where they’re not following that advice. so i can see why they would saythat because most produce that people eat
are bought in the grocery store from commercialindustrial agriculture right? and i want to point out that there’s many kinds of differentcontaminants that can appear on your food, alright? so number one could be bacterialcontamination, right? most of the time it’s bad bacterial contamination such as e.coli,which could be from uncomposted animal manure, or animal manures, runoff from the farm nextdoor that grows animals and the farm next to that grows cantaloupes, and that’s actuallywhat happened years ago when they had an e.coli outbreak on spinach, people got sick fromspinach and it’s because of the manures. another kind of contamination besides thebacteria could be a chemical contamination, so even on organic produce they spray pesticideson the crops, of course in my opinion, the
synthetic pesticides that’s found and usedon conventional crops is worse in most cases, but not all, than the organic pesticides usedon crops, that’s another kind of contamination that could happen at the farm. but then oncethe food is harvested, so say i’m going to harvest this celery root here, i pull itup, i’ve got to handle it in my hands, and the guys in the field, maybe they don’thave a bathroom and they don’t wash their hands, and then you have human contaminationof that with bad bacteria that could get people sick, right? and then also another kind ofcontamination could be just bugs, debris or dirt, you know? so i mean of these contaminantsthere’s ones in my opinion that are worse than others. of course i think the pesticidesare probably one of the worst things that
you probably should wash your produce if you’rebuying conventional food, hands down. now if you’re buying organic, it’d probablybe prudent in many cases to wash the produce off, because even if it’s labeled organic,doesn’t mean it was grown organically, because there are studies about that. but if you knowa local farmer and he’s growing it, there’s minimal hands on it, i probably wouldn’tbe so concerned about it, and the thing is this right, if you’re not growing your ownfood, you don’t know who touched it, how it was handled, what was sprayed on it, andyou don’t know, so it would probably be prudent to wash it in most instances, so that’swhat i do personally right, if it’s conventional food that i buy and there’s only a few thingsthat i buy that’s conventional, i generally
wash it before eating, and most of those thingsare fruits that i peel first, and so i don’t actually eat the peels, avocados is somethingi could think of, mangoes i’ll get, papayas are another one that i’ll buy conventional,cactus fruits is another one, i’ll wash those and then peel them and then use them,and so we want to minimize the contamination of anything that you guys could get, and sothat’s my stance on conventional food. now on organic food i might wash it a little bitless often, my goal is to always wash things, but sometimes it’s in convenient, you knowi’m out shopping and i buy a pound of strawberries in the container, and it says “wash beforeeating,†and i’m hungry, and it’s like “okay either i can get a [inaudible] thati don’t have to wash, or eat fresh strawberries
that are organic that i don’t wash, andthen eat,†right? okay, i don’t have to tell you guys what’s better, fresh strawberriesthat are unwashed unless they’re contaminated are better than eating a [inaudible] or kalechips if you’re out and about. so that’s what i do but if i’m at home, generallyi wash my strawberries. if i’m here at my house and i have raspberries growing in thebackyard, i just pick them and eat them, i don’t even wash them, you know? i eat allthe peppers off my plants here, i mean something like my celery [inaudible] celery root whereit’s got dirt on it, i’ll wash off the dirt. if i have some weeds that have someaphids or bugs on it, i don’t know if you guys can see these guys right here, i mightwash those guys off before eating. but if
it’s relatively clean or has a few bugsi’ll just brush it off on my shirt, it goes right in the mouth. because on the flipside,there are beneficial organisms on the fruits and vegetables that you guys are eating, right?and so in our modern society which is not how we would have lived thousands of yearsago. we would have lived in nature, we would have plants and fruit trees and greens growing,we would just go out to nature and pick it and eat it, right? and if you lived in a utopiaand had your own ten acres of property like i have a friend that lives on maui and hegrows all his own stuff, he never washes anything man, he lives in an area of hawaii where theydon’t have to spray anything, there’s little contamination, pure environment, andthat’s what i’d like to do also, and it
is my goal one of these days. but if you’rebuying food from the grocery store, it’s probably prudent in most cases to wash it,because you don’t know how it was handled, right? and if i get spring mix or baby spinachthat says triple-washed on there, i generally don’t wash it, because it’s triple washed,i’ve rarely seen any kind of problems with it being dirty if it’s triple washed, soi like that because it saves a lot of time, if i buy romaine hearts in the three-packs,generally i’ll strip some of the outer leaves, that would be the ones that were handled bypeople to put in the bag, and then i’ll just eat the inside ones without washing aslong as there’s no major bugs, right? so i mean the answer is not black or white, yesor no, good and bad, it’s case by case basis.
in general for me personally, i like to washas much as possible, you know, but optimally i would like to live more back in nature andeat things just off the vine, because as i said before, there are beneficial probioticsand even beneficial yeasts naturally occurring on fruits and vegetables, and guess what,they live there because that’s also their food source. so we’re eating that rich infiber, we’re getting the pre-biotics that are feeding the probiotics and that were mostlyactually bacteria, not human. and so i want you guys to encourage your microbiome by notbuying sterile produce. so the easiest way to do that is grow it yourself or get it atthe farmer’s market, where you know the farmer grew it, and he grew it using goodpractices, not spraying toxic conventional
sprays on it. so in the end i want you guysto do the best you can, and do what you think after you guys heard all these opinions, heyplease post your comment down below if you’re going to wash always, not wash, or wash ona case-by-case basis, which is what i recommend you guys, just use your common sense, butin general for me, i like to wash things. when it doubt wash it, because you never knowhow it was handled, what was sprayed on it, and at least getting some of that off is probablya good thing. and there are studies that show washing can reduce the different pesticidesand things on the food, and the main source of that is just by the action of the waterblasting it and hitting the produce, it basically blasts off whatever’s on there. so i dorecommend when you are washing is use instead
of just the regular stream that comes outof your sink, put the hose sprayer that sprays it at high pressure, kind of like when you’rein the shower, kind of like sprays at high pressure, you want to spray the stuff offto dislodge it, and then the other thing you guys want to do is you want to make a mixture,if you do want to use different washes and stuff. a lot of those things, fit and allthis stuff i don’t think they work that well, [inaudible] work better than not, butthere’s studies out there that show they don’t. but what does work is a very simplesaltwater solution, so i think it’s a one to nine saltwater solution. soak your fruitsand veggies in that, and then rinse off with high pressure blasts of water to get yourproduce clean, and the other thing i’d recommend
is put in a garden so you don’t have towash produce and maybe get more beneficial bacteria and other benefits from growing agarden besides just the beneficial bacteria and yeasts, you’re going to taste betterfood and be healthier because of it. so i hope you guys enjoyed this episode, ifyou did hey please give me a thumbs up let me know, i’ll do more q and a’s with alot of my friends like i did in this episode. also be sure to check my past episodes, ihave at least a dozen of these episodes where i interview some of the top people, some ofthe educators in raw foods so you guys could learn more about what they do so you coulddecide what you want to do, and that’s why i make these videos for you guys, to educateyou guys so that you guys could move forward
and move further along in your journey. alsobe sure to click that subscribe button right down below to be notified of my new and upcomingepisodes because i have new and upcoming episodes coming out about every five days. so onceagain my name is john kohler with okraw.com, we’ll see you next time and until the remember,keep eating your fresh fruits and vegetables, they’re always the best.
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